a start on that in obama care. we need to go further and further in medicare and do further in medicare. at the same time, with an aging population and rising health care costs we need to bring taxes above where they are now and bring them relatively far where they are now. simpson-bowles had 2.5 trillion in tax increases and new one today a total $1.2 trillion. washington has moved so far to the right on tax and not worth trying any more is their point. it is worth saying if we don't want to make dumb cuts to the government go higher on taxes and into entitlements and not should be doing more damage to the everything else part of the budget. the education and first responders and all of that. we have cut enough there. no more. >> you bring your simpson and bowles. they released more of the detail today about the deficit reduction plan they have. here is what they had to say on "the daily rundown" this morning about that plan. take a look. >> they can scoff all they want but either get your country on course and fo